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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2012.04.11 09:47:00 -
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Haha. Miners just never stop complaining and crying. They aren't even getting CCPwnd like Incursion runners and gankers - they just crying because they aren't getting the buffs they want.
Let me clue you in.
Generally ships get buffs when they are underutilized. (well, except for Black Ops)
If it was REALLY bad, nobody would fly it.
I don't think you can honestly say that Hulks are underutilized - its one of the most commonly flown ships in the game.
It would be like CCP buffing the Drakes' resists because 'so many of them die'.
The problem isn't with the ship - its with the miners themselves.
Like others said, it can fit 3x Strips and sport 33K EHP, and with Orca support almost 40K.
If you gave it another low slot  - then watch as the vast majority of miners use it for Cargo-Expanders and make their ships even EASIER to kill. |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2012.04.11 12:31:00 -
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Hulk is fine.
Miners are the problem.
If the Hulk was 'bad' nobody would use it. They would fly Covetors instead.
The Hulk is in the top five of 'most flown ships' - 3rd IIRC. The Covetor is WAY down the list.
Pretty obvious to me that what these carebears want - is massive EHP without having to dedicate low and rigs slots for the purpose. Essentially, 75-80K EHP on the standard '2x Cargo mod/MLU, 2x Cargo rig" fit.
Then, they will lobby for even more Concord buffs/ganking nerfs - rendering ganks nearly impossible. Sure, it will still be 'possible' - but if it requires the coordination of a large group and/or massive loss of ISK on each gank....it will be an exceedingly rare event.
Result: Carebear miner paradise, where Hulks can AFK/macro mine all day. Risk free. |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2012.04.11 13:32:00 -
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Of course, T2 gives you only marginally better performance for a price.
In combat ships and everything else. Carebears are the only ones who refuse to understand it, it seems.
Even explaning it to them won't help.
Miners are just ignorant as a class, and when you suggest that THEY are the problem, they get all self-righteous.
CCP caters to them in the same way that teachers try to prevent other students from picking on the 'mentally handicapped'. Doesn't change the fact that they ARE mentally handicapped.
The Vagabond is 150M, while the Stabber is 3-4 M and insurable. Does the Vagabond give 40x better performance?
The T2 Claw is a 15-20M, while a T1 Slasher is 50K. Is the Claw 40x better?
Insisting that the 220M T2 Hulk is somehow out of line with the 25M T1 Covetor - is nonsense.
EDIT: Hulk does not need a buff, but my point would be proven if CCP simply gave the Hulk an additional low slot.
95% of the miners out there would stuff another Cargo Expander in it, and cripple their EHP further - and then continue to cry when Destroyers blow them up.  |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2012.04.12 00:27:00 -
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Wow. This thread is a monument to miner idiocy.
Props to Tippia - the master of making them look stupid and they don't even realize it.
The nerfs for gankers have been coming thick and fast, CCP patching away more and more of the sandbox.
But it STILL isn't enough for the crybears.
Miners mad because gankers used to get insurance (like everyone else).
CCP caves, Insurance goes away - but only for gankers.
Miners celebrate - until they discover they are still getting killed.
Gankers compensate by attacking in dessies - even while GCC'd.
-Nerfed within weeks.
Gankers compensate by chain killing in Tornados.
-Nerfed.
Unload your mods into an Orca?
-Nerfed.
And now we get a threadnaught demanding buffs for Hulks, even though they can already:
Tank over 31K EHP - (40K with fleet boosts), and still fit 3x T2 strip miners - which saves you from any solo gank, and most small group ganks.
Then I read their ideas for 'improving' the Hulk.
Just wow. |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2012.04.12 00:42:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:
Actually what I expect them to do is fit tanks and use their scanners.
We allready prove decent buffer tank fit is imposible. And it is allready mentioned, that scanner is useless in high as you can't allways jump out as soon as some neutral enter the system. And we allready prove, that a decent gank can kill ANY Hulk equal of fitting in less then 10 seconds (Hulk alligne time 17.4 seconds!!!!!!!). So who do you try to impress with your lies?
Dumbass.
A decent buffer tank is impossible - if you have the brainpower of a tuna fish.
Surviving a gank is a numbers game. Buff your stats and you are vulnerable only to determined, coordinated gank squads. (not as many out there as you think). Be an idiot and fail to tank, and you are killed by randoms in a single Catalyst.
Based on your poor grammar and weak reasoning skills, my guess is that you fall into the latter category. |
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